Bag of Tricks Vol. 36: Stronghold Strongboxes can be Profitable

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Welcome to the latest installment of our Bag of Tricks! On some days you will find useful tricks, gimmicks and ideas here that can make life in Neverwinter Online easier. Some of the stuff should be well known, but since even veterans learn something new every now and then, chance is you can, too.

At first view Stronghold Strongboxes seem to be one of these pay-2-accelerate features we love so much. They drop from Dragonflight events and can be contributed directly to coffers, but grant way more points when you open them with a ZEN Strongbox key.

So getting the max value for your guild comes at the personal expense of ADs. But does it?

To come to a conclusion you need to judge the value of opening the Strongboxes vs. the value of directly donating them to the coffer. The exchange are Guild Marks, which needs to be valued as well. Currently only the Strongbox of Influence is a net plus when opened, because the value of the Guild Marks do indeed surpass the key. And none of the boxes is worth opening, because in all four cases the value of directly donating the box is greater than opening it.

So far so bad. But the values change at a double professions/guild mark event or if your guild is owning the Explorer’s Guild structure at rank 6 or higher. All three effectively double the value of Guild Marks, because Explorer’s Cases yield the most profit. The following multipliers are possible:

  • X2: Explorer’s Guild Rank 6
  • X2: Farming Explorer’s Charts during a double event
  • X2: Donating the Vouchers into the coffer during a double event
  • X4: Explorer’s Guild Rank 6 and farming Explorer’s Charts during a double event
  • X4: Explorer’s Guild Rank 6 and donating the Vouchers into the coffer during a double event
  • X4: Farming Explorer’s Charts during a double event and farming Explorer’s Charts during a double event
  • X8: Explorer’s Guild Rank 6 and farming Explorer’s Charts during a double event and donating the Vouchers into the coffer during a double event

The Strongbox of Influence becomes profitable on any X2 multiplier and above, the Strongbox of Surplus currently needs a X4 and Gems X8 multiplier. The Strongbox of Astral Diamonds is the only one that remains a net negative even in a best-case scenario.

So don’t give up on the Strongboxes just yet. Utilizing double events and some knowledge can lead to a massive gain. The Strongbox of Influence can currently net up to 150,000k AD per box. Yes, you heard that right.

We have created some boxes in our RNG tool that are able to estimate the value of the Strongboxes. Please note that those boxes are based on single resources from Charts and that the data basis is slim.


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2 thoughts on “Bag of Tricks Vol. 36: Stronghold Strongboxes can be Profitable

  • July 15, 2016 at 1:10 pm
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    opening the strongboxes of influence is so much cheaper than buying an equivalent amount of influence vouchers on the AH. 20k for a key gets you 5 influence vouchers, or you spend like 180k for those same 5 vouchers if you purchase them

    • July 15, 2016 at 1:12 pm
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      125k now, i guess the Regal Stronghold packs vouchers being sellable has dropped the overall price of influence. my orginal post still stands. You net over a 5x return on influence if that is what you are after

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