Indyre’s How To Refine Mythic Artifacts
Beckylunatic shared a useful Reddit post today that’s worth promoting, because it explains the fastest way to your Mythic Artifact.
[su_quote cite=”Indyre” url=”https://www.reddit.com/r/Neverwinter/comments/3n86cl/xboxhow_to_refining_mythic_artifacts/”]I see alot of players getting discouraged by the refinement wall and its much lower than it seems if you understand the refinement system. The key is it takes 150k RP (turns into 300k during 2x) to create a feeder artifact. These are catalogues / waters / wheels which are leveled to 59 and fed into artifacts of similar types to gain multiple times the amount of RP.
Now here is the breakdown for 1 mythic:
4 level 59 feeders
2 blank artifacts
All marks to upgrade
2 epics and 6 blues
600k base refinement to create feeders
You take the feeders and place two of each into the blank artifacts and upgrade them to epic, depending on crits this will land you around 91-94, now once you’ve made two of these during 2x you’ll see they are worth a whopping 5m rp each, now combine these into your mythic target artifact and boom, you’ve just made a maxed out artifact. 10m rp is much easier to obtain when its done the proper way. I will add that I recommend feeding everything about 10-15 runes short of what it may need to give yourself some wiggle room for crits. This is especially true when refining the target artifact to mythic because if one lvl 94 feeder crits it could finish your whole artifact in one shot.
http://neverwinter.gamepedia.com/Artifact
This link has a table that will help you with rp values, use the colum on the far right and multiply it by 10.[/su_quote]
It’s tagged as Xbox but is true for the PC version as well. It a really nice system to simplify the math behind getting your Mythic Artifact from scratch. One of our first Bag of Tricks covered feeding Artifacts as well, but the spreadsheet I created back then admittedly doesn’t cover multi-layer feeding and is way more complicated.
Looking at the price of current r4s, I think it’s the fastest way but not the most cost effective way.
Cost to make 1 Mythic with r4s:
~10.5mil RP (Let’s make it 10mil since some r4s crit)
10mil/ 540rp per r4 during 2xrp/ 99x r4 per stack = 187 stacks of r4s
187 * 1.5k AD per stack = 280k AD
FINAL COST= 280k AD (Excluding the marks needed for the artifact itself)
Cost using the guide above:
4 level 59 feeders = 70k AD per arti * 4 = 280k AD
2 blank artifacts = 70k AD per arti * 2 = 140k AD
All marks to upgrade = Excluding this
2 epics and 6 blues = ~ 50k AD
600k base refinement to create feeders = (600k/540/99) * 1.5k AD per stack = ~16k AD
FINAL COST= 436k AD (Excluding the marks needed for the artifact itself)
280k vs 436k AD = If it crits it’s worth it but how often does it crits? 😉
That ofc if you’re using the artifacts like skulls from pvp it’s good but for union and stability artifacts it’s a bit pricy tbh.
I think I’ve figured it out. The key is that feeding an artifact multiplies the RP gain by 5 if you have a matching type (Union to Union). But, buying feeders costs money. And, you want do this during double-RP weekend, and that’s when prices of artifacts are high, which makes it all look bad.
The key is to buy feeder artifacts at the lowest price possible. And, always keep any free artifacts such as from a chest drop or special event (Apocalypse Dagger!). Then, level up the feeder during a double RP weekend. When you reach a threshold for the feeder, whether to upgrade it depends on the cost of the inputs. Going to blue is going to pretty much always make sense, because those marks are cheap. If marks are cheap (or you get them free in Dread Ring, etc.), then going beyond level 59 can make sense. And, you can always feed a feeder to a feeder!
That’s where the tool comes in. You have to use the tool with some planning. I checked during double RP weekend, but the artifact prices were so bad that the tool recommended not using feeders. But, when I set the price lower manually, then it did make feeders work out favorably.
Is this all still true? Or is this now no longer necessary due to double-RP-weekend logic being now a core part of artifact advancement? Thanks!
You can use our Artifact Refining Cheat Sheet for up-to-date calculation: https://nwo-uncensored.com/phpBB3/app.php/nwountools/markettools/artifacts
Thanks! That shows the cost, but it doesn’t say anything about using “feeder artifacts,” to gain a benefit over just adding refinement points to the main artifact. Is that concept of “feeder artifacts” (found in the article) no longer valid?
If there are no feeder artifacts shown in the tool, then there’s no gain using them over straight refining.
Dam, I’m so confused of all this. I’m new to Neverwinter and trying to learn how to get a Mythic the cheapest way possible.
Tried our Cheat Sheet yet? It’s the most accurate way, but also needs the most manual input: https://www.nwo-uncensored.com/phpBB3/app.php/nwountools/markettools/artifacts
I have a legendary rank 100 that I want to push to mythic, we have a double RP starting tomorrow. I have hunted for an answer and have yet to find one as most of the calculators are based on refining from a new artifact. how many feeders and at what level do I need to get them too do I need to have t push my legendary to mythic. Thanks!
Have you tried our Refining Tool for Artifacts? You can start at Rank 100, but you an accurate calculation you need to fill in a few numbers.
https://www.nwo-uncensored.com/phpBB3/app.php/nwountools/markettools/artifacts
Using the original method you get 2 artifacts to 5m then add them to make 1 10m item. Isn’t it better to take one item to 1m points and add it in? because assuming its 2xRP event and you’re adding same type artifact to another, that would give it 10x value, so would give the final item 10m points straight off? or am i missing something?..
Hey, You do not get “2 artifacts to 5m”. The author suggests getting two Artifacts to level 94, which is only 519,790 RP per. So both combine for 1,039,580. As you correctly mentioned assuming 2x RP and matching type that would be a x10 multiplier and the 10m you need.
Ahh thanks, yeh so each has a base worth of 519,790 but after the 10x multiplier is the ~5m.
I tried using the cheat calculator and keep getting the following error: Data error! Try using the sandbox mode and provide all necessary (*) values! All the values ade already there so I’m not sure what its missing.
We just checked and it seems fine on our end. Could you send us a screenshot with all your options and sandbox values that causes the error? Plus browser version.
I’ve tried a different browser and I get the same error. All the values are already filled in. Am I supposed to change them? I took a screenshot but I can’t attach it here. I’ve tried browser Opera and Internet explorer.
Mail the screenshot to admin@nwo-uncensored.com please. We’ll see what we can do.
I think that the values the tool displays aren’t actually there and you do have to enter every single value by hand to get it to work.
Oh yeah, don’t get confused with the placeholders. They are grey and actual values white.
Okay that was the issue I didn’t realize I had to recode the information. One more question: what does the cheapest available RP in AD field asking for?
I do mine with 3 artifacts. The keeper and 2 feeders. I level 1 to 99, the second to 9* depending on whats needed. Not sure its the absolute cheapest, but it is the simplest to keep track of. using 4 feeders complicates things more than its worth to me. Whether its cheapest comes down to the prices of upgrade marks and the base artifacts themselves, so that varies with time.